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Jonesjonathan635
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Click for profile 		Most of us have had some description of a spiritual experience or moment in time when you have felt God, the Divine or the other realm of another world. The moment has come and touched some of our lives to pass by and then with others the moment has stopped us in our tracks and we came to the realization that there was an existence of God, of the Divine realm and made the decision to believe it and learn more. We diligently attend religious and spiritual meetings, we perform spiritual acts of worship, we buy books, we go to seminars, we listen to CD's and DVD's we chase after knowledge of the Divine and we exhaust our minds, bodies and souls for the deep desire to have another Divine appointment and experience.

When we have that moment, the experience changes us and we know that there is something other than what we have known on this earth. It gives us instant relief, peace, clarity and a purifying of soul .Even though it is the experience that has changed us we find ourselves in pursuit of knowledge eventually coming to the relentless conclusion, if pursued long enough that knowledge and experience cannot replace one another.

I don't want to be a priest… I just want to know, feel, experience God as much as possible. Do you have to be a priest? Does the Divine Order of creation have a hierarchy? Can only the elect, the special, the chosen get privy VIP status to the Divine…. Leaving the rest of us to wonder, to experience being lost, blind and deaf only to depend on others for religious spiritual information not really knowing where that information came from. Do we end up finding ourselves putting our faith in God, the Divine and our trust in others to tell us what to do to keep Divine Order in our lives. I am not demoting the fact that there are individuals that are placed on our paths to help us along our journey. In actuality, there are many that are used to help us, teach us, heal us and guide us along the way. We are connected by the creator, creation itself and the energy that keep's it's constant perfect order. If there is one thing we should have learned as humans by now is that we do need each other to exist and our connectives achieves the better good for all mankind.

Spirituality has it's dual purpose in one respect it gives us the gift of (at- oneness) – (atonement) with God, the Divine and Creation and yet, on the other hand it connects us to creation and teaches us to draw strength from the Divine that is not only within but that surrounds us constantly. Both are equally important to create a peaceful balance in our spirit so that we do not lose sight of the reason we exist is to fulfill our infinite purpose and not just what we feel that we are here to do on this planet.

The Divine order and infinite power that is available to all. The sun will gracefully resign this evening, the moon will joyfully rise, the plants will explode with flowers, the rivers will extend their arms to their to source and we will restfully sleep, constantly awake, give birth and slowly die without direction, rules or effort. Creation within the boundaries of time move constantly in perfect order. Creation in the Divine Infinite Order of God are constant and perfect without boundaries of time, space or lack.

[This post edited by Jonesjonathan635 on 30 January 2012 ]

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Click for profile 		Thank you, now I have a slightly more related reason to post this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBNSBXkPy-c
Because this is what any religious conversation basically boils down to for me.

[This post edited by my#11 on 30 January 2012 ]

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No, reverends have no idea on being holy. At least in none of the congregations I have seen except for one Bishop in the Anglican church that I may speak of in a bit. I would say no priest is holy because sitting in a cold room preaching at people, bobbing up and down in some ornate dance, dressed in finery etc is not what holiness is about in the Christian religion and I dare say any religion.

If a Priest wanted to be holy then he should be taking his flock to help people. To work with the local communities, to improve the lives of the local community, to aid the poor and the impoverished. A priest shouldn't stand in a pulpit talking about kind acts of some big-nosed, bastard son of a carpenter born 2000 years ago to get his congregation to be more like Jesus. He should lead by example and be more like Jesus. His hands should be rough like those of a carpenter's from helping a family on monday to fix their flood damage, from working on tuesday to help the local school build an allotment, from comforting someone in a time of grief on a wednesday, from handing blankets to the homeless on a thursday and counselling a young person on a friday and clearing up after the charity jumble sale on the saturday. All of which should be done without the mention of Jesus or God or any such thing unless someone asks why they do these things. Why they take a life of toil after passing a degree of divinity when they clearly could be out earning a load of money?

Now I mention the former Bishop of Bedford, who would visit our schools and talk to classes, groups, assemblies. He'd talk of walking through Belfast with a Catholic priest. He'd talk of the work he's been doing in the community and he'd never need to mention to those that weren't asking about God and Jesus. Instead he broadened our minds, he shared his experiences with us to allow us to learn from him if we chose too. He made me a better person by sharing what he'd learnt. He was, for me the exception that proved the rule, Priests are not holy, they're the most misguided of the lot of us.
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Click for profile 		Whatever spirituality priests have, I don't want any of it.
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Whatever spirituality priests have, I don't want any of it.


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