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SO. GODDAMN. LONELY. (44 posts)
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Tiresias
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Why, why, why, why does nobody I know in this town ever ask me to hang out with them? Seriously help me out here, guys. I must be missing something. Because I am *always* the one doing the inviting.
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Just ask some questions about whether I do certain annoying things. Maybe I do something stupid I haven't noticed yet.
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Maybe they're just used to you doing it so they wait for you to ask.
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so you're like a girl though right? but thinks shes a guy?
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Cindi, you'll like this

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so you're like a girl though right? but thinks shes a guy?




I refer to Ivan as an MSH. Mysterious Sexy Human.
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Well, one thing is that you're not really into clubs and messy alcohol fueled events. Which is fine, I have friends like that myself. However, at this age, it is the most common social activity.And it may not be that they don't think to invite you, but instead, knowing you won't enjoy yourself, just think it's better not to.

Do you maybe try to make future plans when you are invited out? Some people may perceive this as clingy.

Also, to be blunt, the gender confusion (as in people's confusion about your gender identity) may make some people feel uncomfortable. Which is entirely their issue, but it could make them less inclined to invite you to events, and introduce you to people.

Also, do you usually bring your bf with you? Because if you do so all the time, without informing/asking people, that can get annoying.
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Also, do you tend to dominate conversations? To the point that you're talking 80% of the time. I have a friend like this, and though I can deal wtih it, others cannot.

Or if you tend to rant about the same topic that is more of a niche interest, a lot. Same friend tends to talk a lot about Doctor Who, to people who do not watch it, and don't care to start.


You seem pretty darn chill, though. A little less policitally correct then some people would like, but pretty easy to get along with, with most people in our age group.
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I am feeling this way lately as well. I have been super busy and I am trying to convince myself that people are just being considerate of my lack of free time. But I think it is more than that. Sad!
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"so you're like a girl though right? but thinks shes a guy?"



Either you're just asking an irrelevant question for the sake of being a douchebag, or you're uncomfortable with the idea of not knowing exactly which of two possible genders someone fits into so you try to box them into a category yourself and then make fun of them. It'll drive you wild to hear that my answer is "I don't really know and I don't know if I'll ever know." It's a question I wish I could answer right away mostly for the sake of other people. Don't think that I consider myself particularly unusual or special. Now go ahead and laugh to yourself at the confused stupid girl like you will undoubtedly do.
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I'm pretty sure it's d-bag.
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Anjali, I'll respond to your points a bit out of order...

"Well, one thing is that you're not really into clubs and messy alcohol fueled events. Which is fine, I have friends like that myself. However, at this age, it is the most common social activity.And it may not be that they don't think to invite you, but instead, knowing you won't enjoy yourself, just think it's better not to."

I quite like clubbing and dancing now and have asked people to go with me a few times. Don't mind alcohol either. Also, I hilariously enough appear to be more into this stuff than my friends, because I've asked them maybe two, three times in the last year if they'd like to go and they've always refused, even though I know they've quite liked it in the very recent past :-P

"Do you maybe try to make future plans when you are invited out? Some people may perceive this as clingy."

Hah, no. At the most, if I haven't seen someone in a while, I will say near the end, "This has been fun, I'd love to do it more often." Pretty much invariably they will agree and chide themselves for not hanging out with me more.

"Also, do you usually bring your bf with you? Because if you do so all the time, without informing/asking people, that can get annoying."

No, god no. This annoys me too. Actually, people constantly ask me why I haven't brought him, even if he's not mentioned during the time of hanging-out arrangement.

"Do you tend to dominate conversations? To the point that you're talking 80% of the time. I have a friend like this, and though I can deal wtih it, others cannot."

Nope. I used to when I was younger, and then I kind of annoyed myself with that because I realized that I wasn't really listening to other people, so now I pay close attention to the pace of a conversation (especially in a group) and I don't ever say anything just because I want to be heard, I say it if I think others will find it relevant/interesting/helpful/whatever. I'm definitely not silent, and I do know how to keep a conversation rather than a monologue going, and I'd like to think I've found a good balance. The funny thing is, I had a more fulfilling social life back when I was just a loud-mouth.

"Or if you tend to rant about the same topic that is more of a niche interest, a lot. Same friend tends to talk a lot about Doctor Who, to people who do not watch it, and don't care to start."

Nope, I don't do that, I talk about a variety of things and I notice pretty quickly if someone is not interested in a particular topic. Another odd result is that those friends of mine who do go on about their niche interests have gravitated towards each other and away from me and now have weekly ice-cream-and-Doctor-Who-nights (that's an actual example). I hate Doctor Who but I want something like that, and I do have some other shared niche interests with people and have tried to get even a *monthly* let's-watch-this-show-together event happening and people couldn't even make that.

As to the gender issue and what I think is your assumption (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm talking about pretty casual friends... I am actually thinking specifically about a few people that I have considered very close friends for years, who have become that naturally and not through me trying to force anything, and with whom there has been much sharing about deeply personal topics. Never have any of them found the gender thing confusing. It may be that they don't see me as that important, but that would contradict both actual heartfelt words they've all repeatedly said to me over the years, without me prompting them (about how they very much value my friendship and consider me to be an interesting and wonderful person and among their intimates) and the way we act on the very rare occasions when we do see each other. By very rare, I mean that I usually don't see the same person more than once every 2-6 months. I ask a person to hang out usually not more often than once every two weeks (much longer if they refuse several times), and since they're usually busy and they never ask me back, that's how often meetings actually end up happening.

Perhaps one clue is that I actually had a friend recently admit to me that she's been avoiding me because I am so confident but also calm and kind and accepting towards others and that I don't expect her to play any sort of role but herself, which she finds terrifying because she says other people always project roles onto each other.

I shit you not. Just what am I supposed to do now? Get some low self-esteem? Be a bit more quick to judge and prejudiced? Become a little more fake?
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I read that as 'So goddam lovely'.

I have nothing much to add to the thread other than *hug*. I'm sorry you're feeling lonely. I'm sometimes poor at suggesting to hang out with people, and I appreciate my friends who are more proactive about it. You've mentioned before you're not part of a 'set' friendship group - perhaps that's partly why? I also wonder if it's worth trying to meet some new people. What sort of people would you like to meet, and where might you find them? If you took up a new hobby (oh my word, so cliched!) then you'd have something to entertain you, plus you'd meet new people who could be interesting.

If by 'I must be missing something' you mean 'I must suck and not realise it' then please, please, please don't let the amount people suggest hanging out with you determine your worth and likeability. Seriously. Loneliness is worse if you think it's just cause 'people don't like you'. You can see on Spank people do, and you know other people across the world you're close to - this is just one area of the world, with one bunch of people. Besides, they are your friends, they're just not proactive about suggesting hanging out - doesn't necessarily mean much, even though it's upsetting.
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Also, thanks muchly for your suggestion-questions. Cindi... it may be possible that they're used to me asking but that makes me feel kinda taken for granted. May be true, or not. I'm not sure what to think of it. Silvana... good luck, I know how much it hurts Sad!
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I'm pretty sure it's d-bag.


Actually it's probably both. People are often douchebags when they're uncomfortable about something.
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The only thing I can think of is that it might possibly help if you suggest a specific time to do (a possibly specific) something with whoever... you know, whenever you get the "it's been far too long" conversations on bumping into people or whatever.
So many -evers...
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quoting: Tiresias
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"so you're like a girl though right? but thinks shes a guy?"



Either you're just asking an irrelevant question for the sake of being a douchebag, or you're uncomfortable with the idea of not knowing exactly which of two possible genders someone fits into so you try to box them into a category yourself and then make fun of them. It'll drive you wild to hear that my answer is "I don't really know and I don't know if I'll ever know." It's a question I wish I could answer right away mostly for the sake of other people. Don't think that I consider myself particularly unusual or special. Now go ahead and laugh to yourself at the confused stupid girl like you will undoubtedly do.



Or trying to sort it out in their mind?
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quoting: Ivan
As to the gender issue and what I think is your assumption (correct me if I'm wrong) that I'm talking about pretty casual friends... I am actually thinking specifically about a few people that I have considered very close friends for years, who have become that naturally and not through me trying to force anything, and with whom there has been much sharing about deeply personal topics. Never have any of them found the gender thing confusing. It may be that they don't see me as that important, but that would contradict both actual heartfelt words they've all repeatedly said to me over the years, without me prompting them (about how they very much value my friendship and consider me to be an interesting and wonderful person and among their intimates) and the way we act on the very rare occasions when we do see each other. By very rare, I mean that I usually don't see the same person more than once every 2-6 months. I ask a person to hang out usually not more often than once every two weeks (much longer if they refuse several times), and since they're usually busy and they never ask me back, that's how often meetings actually end up happening




fair enough, just thought for more casual friends this may be the case. I personally am confused, but as you can tell, that's more just a lingering inability to fully process people who don't fit nicely within the 2 gender system.


My only other suggestion is that although they consider you a very close friend, you don't exist as a clear member of their usual 'hang-out" groups. I have friends who I tend to only do things with one on one for this very reason. Granted, I am always the one making these plans, but I wouldn't usually think to invite them to something else I was attending.
In this case it's really nothing to do with your personality or mannerisms.
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You're lonely. Every question is relevant into figuring out why nobody wants to hang out with you, i'm not in question here your ''friends" are.

quoting: Tiresias
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"so you're like a girl though right? but thinks shes a guy?"



Now go ahead and laugh to yourself at the confused stupid girl like you will undoubtedly do.



Man up.
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In part i can relate.

I really only have one friend now aside from the wonder twins (drugs and alcohol)

But i've also been a pretty lonnery person so i dunno.

My advice is quality over quantity.
quote / posted 14 May 2011 7:26 AM

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